In part 1 of their conversation, Tony Cliff and Dan Berry talk about how you make money making graphic novels, the joy and terror of DIY and not getting in your own way.

Here's the tweet thread that Tony was alluding to in this chat.

Tony has a new book out called Let's Get Sleepy!

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